Curse

practicing01 · Aug 07, 2010, 10:15 PM // 22:15

GW is too dead to try to form anything other than bbway now-a-days. Here's a thread for team builds you've created but haven't been able to test.

Build #1 QZ Pressure

Going to try to make a build that uses monks running under natures renewal.

Champen · Aug 08, 2010, 12:55 AM // 00:55

snare ? weapon seplls ?

jonnieboi05 · Aug 08, 2010, 01:54 AM // 01:54

Where is your healer? I mean... Really... LoD? o.0

And your Monks e-mananegment? Eh... I don't know how Bon. Defense will work out for e-management since I haven't HA'ed in at least 4 months; you said there's nothing but BBway going on, so.... Hmm... I'd still prefer channeling and p-drain > BD, if anything.

practicing01 · Aug 08, 2010, 02:38 AM // 02:38

For snares: muddy terrain, for weapon spells: defensive anthem.

jonnieboi05 · Aug 08, 2010, 03:29 AM // 03:29

*kills Muddy Terrain* Snare gone.

*dshots DA* "Weapon" (with no S) gone.

Sirius Bsns · Aug 08, 2010, 03:35 AM // 03:35

ROFLMFAO Sins have long-recharge offhand attacks, no increased movement speed, your midline has no damage, redundant skills... ... ...just... ...just NO!

Silverhand · Aug 08, 2010, 04:46 AM // 04:46

if the enemy team doesnt camp your monks then they can just pressure out other targets while your monks run out of energy...
i mean yeah you have bip but if that gets diverted gg

jonnieboi05 · Aug 08, 2010, 05:12 AM // 05:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silverhand

if the enemy team doesnt camp your monks then they can just pressure out other targets while your monks run out of energy...
i mean yeah you have bip but if that gets diverted gg

My thoughts exactly. If the Mesmer was in any way smart, he would catch a nice diversion on BiP and GG out the Monks.

Reverend Dr · Aug 08, 2010, 05:39 AM // 05:39

Nothing in this build is worth salvaging.

Fear me is negated by moving. Even then, fear me is still terrible. See next.

QZ is okay for pressure build, but this has no pressure. It is the first spirit targeted. QZ has more pressure than 4 copies of fear me all under QZ's recharge time. Fear me is just that bad now that it has a recharge.

Just going with the regular sin-spam bar would be far superior to those posted.

The mesmer is going to be doing a lot of nothing. At peek performance it is going to shut down one character. Never create a character whose job is to just shut down one person, it just won't work.

Also power drain in an e-denial build is p pro.

Throw dirt is just terrible.

Apply poison is awesome, too bad you don't have any skills to spread it with. The rest of that ranger's bar is hardly anything at all.

BiP is good, but every build that uses it, uses it as a strong crutch. Without it (splits, it being shut down, that character dead) the team quickly crumbles. And every other team knows this.

The Oath Shot ranger doesn't do anything. Any other character template would work far better.

That is a terrible paragon bar. Just trust me here.

No weapon of warding or resilient weapon.

No party heals outside of LoD.

Absolutely no reason to use To the Limit to fuel bonetti's. That is just a waste of a skillslot.

No IMS outside of make haste. No snares.

Even assuming muddy terrain is up (it most likely won't be), that puts your characters running at the same speed as everyone else, meaning your melee have no chance to attack targets and your defense has no chance to get away.

No ward against foes. This skill is in nearly every team for good reason.

No enchant removal. If channeling is up, then QZ is only helping their monks keep their team alive.

Absolutely no chance of staying alive on altar. None whatsoever.

No KD's. You don't have to have them, but they are pretty damn strong and very versatile.

Just scrap everything.

jonnieboi05 · Aug 08, 2010, 05:44 AM // 05:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reverend Dr

A very keen observation.

Sorry, OP. I am going to side with every reason given by Rev. Just scrap the build and try again.

jimmy1308 · Aug 08, 2010, 07:18 AM // 07:18

/Slap

IN THE VERY HYPOTHETICAL SITUATION that this worked vs bbway.

1) there aren't even that many bbways around currently, people are just playing sins with mesmers. Therefore you've created a team build for vs another team build that isn't even around that much. Try making one for vs sins and mesmers. ( dual wota, dual esurge)

... Il finish this later

The Savage I · Aug 08, 2010, 07:42 AM // 07:42

take out the bad sin bars, put in 2 strong warriors either both hammer or axe and hammer, take out paragon put in a rt, u can play with a different rt bar if u don't want to run the samething as everyone else prolly a OoB or OoS, or caretakers, if your ranger has BIP then your monks do not need bonettis and to the limit, just take balance stance and shield bash, bring WoH (tis gud), ok now the oath bar, you can totally rework it for instance take out throw dirt plz, as for the mesmer rework the bar too there are far to many strong skills out there to not be takin them or you can replace the mesmer for something else like another rt or ranger up to you, these are just my opinions wrote this at 3am so if u dont like i understand lol

*lemming* · Aug 08, 2010, 07:43 AM // 07:43

This is a troll thread, right?

Fluffy Kittens · Aug 08, 2010, 07:50 AM // 07:50

Well i think everything in that build is fine except your useless sins, useless mes, useless rangers, useless para and useless monk. Sorry bro but i don't think u ever played HA before.

pixie the monk · Aug 08, 2010, 09:47 AM // 09:47

no

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*lemming* · Aug 08, 2010, 11:24 AM // 11:24

Yeah, I think we're done here.